Today, the Oriental Morning Post published a nearly four version of the ring on the center of Linyi, Shandong Yang Yongxin network coverage. In the afternoon there is a call Wuhan friends and I discuss this topic like, night, Yang Yongxin post it to write a thousand word text of friends ; on Eagle br> Eagle 20:15:19
Jane on good news, I read your report deep feelings
Tori wine 20:16:22
Kazakhstan, believe it is, in the afternoon to link individuals the
Tori wine 20:16:32
heard that your friend is not it?
on Eagle 20:16:34
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users
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months before the burst of Shandong, said the program also interviewed Larry things to you, may I ask, do you ring the center of the network view of Yang Yongxin
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Tori wine where you are?
Eagle 20:17:37
month in Tianjin
Tori I 20:17:49
after I added the wine over your group, I do not know does not receive, or what
months Eagle 20:18:19
Oh? group number is the number?
Tori beginning wine 20:18:28
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are you Tori 8 at the beginning of the Internet remaining two, I also added, as if there is no plus to
Eagle 20:19:03
months before the burst we have a group, members of the group did not continue to renew the primary, so a Time can not continue to join the wine 20:19:42
Tori Oh, and then only at night, a few days ago with the Fish Eagle 20:20:00
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months, I see Check the
Tori wine 20:20:06
What do you do after
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Tori wine, I always wanted to add this is you, like to interview you The
Tori wine 20:20:31
added several months have not added
Eagle 20:20:47
:)
Tori wine 20:21:08 < br> What do you now?
ah months Eagle 20:21:22
out now on Eagle 20:21:53
software
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Tori wine 20:22:15
Oh, the working time is it?
Tori wine 20:22:31
Eagle 20:22:36
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few months?
East Lei month wine 20:23:30
years
Eagle 20:23:48
ah, it should be concerned about Yang Yongxin time than I usually right:) I, as users, concerned about this issue is humane and conscience.
Tori wine 20:24:03
understand
Eagle 20:24:09
game on in my life is on Eagle 20:24:45
leisure
but also to enjoy the arts, can not understand why such a cruel way to use electric shock, injury to a child again
Tori wine 20:25:11
Yes, see your million word text of the < br> Oh dated Eagle 20:25:25
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Tori wine 20:25:24
is a look at some studies, not simple
Tori wine 20:25:51 < br> what game you play mainly on Eagle 20:26:29
ah, people unfortunately, and now some of the web ring agencies often lack the research in this area, but the wrong way with a simple and crude The so-called addiction to quit.
Eagle 20:26:55
many months, click on the game online games
single
Tori Eagle 20:27:02
wine 20:27: 20
find many organizations have problems on Eagle 20:29:20
Yes, this body is not a good sign. treat the network, to treat games, and addiction problems, such a phenomenon is people sad, this is both a wrong phenomenon, it is a wrong direction.
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wine is
Tori Eagle 20:31:39
months according to my text write: Network expanded to improve the efficiency of knowledge work. games this unique interactive entertainment to give the sense of accomplishment and a sense of belonging, these positive feelings and experiences are the sun. The reason why some children are too obsessed with, is in real life because they lack a sense of accomplishment and a sense of belonging too, these normal basic emotional needs. In fact these children access to the Internet and games ago, life has been unhealthy. address must be used in a positive way, the right education to guide, so that children can experience in life, these positive feelings. rather than by pain, not by Qudachengzhao.
the suffering caused by such institutions, prejudice and discrimination, can only push more children's heart more far.
Tori wine 20:31:43
including even such a tragedy has occurred in Nanning 20:32:06
Tori is the
wine on Eagle 20:32:10
Yes, the status quo is sick, to solve the wine must be examined thoroughly
Tori 20:32:13
cause a problem for a reason
Tori wine 20:32:50
I think Internet addiction is the result of wine 20:33:18
Tori, of course, was in part because
Eagle 20:33:24
ah month because of the family lies in education is that parents look at the way the game
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Tori wine 20:33:57
you think now is not the addiction has become a social problems such a view. meaning that the so-called Internet addiction platforms, these are heart disease, through the network to communicate, then there have been some bad phenomenon. Our focus is not that the common interests of these people go online, to draw an . This is unscientific. should be on the person's own characteristics, the treatment of autistic autism, irritable, and self-cultivation. family environment to improve education. a gambling addiction to gambling addiction, rather than net addiction, even though they may be gambling through the network. But on the fundamental in the gambling addiction. If we can not treat the right networks and games, can not be correct to treat children, educate their children, will eventually become a social problem, and this social problem should not be Single-use the right medicine?
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Yes on eagles, have the right medicine to treat any problems, how the line is not it symptomatic disorder prescription
Tori wine 20:40:45
I guess we all
Tori wine 20:41:26
think about my first reports of it, ha, is not some idea or opinion?
Eagle 20:41:49
so on, many parents do not have a sense of the right medicine to the formation of such a sad situation people to breed a number of extreme inhumanity date web ring body
:2009-8-17
Tori wine 20:42:31 < br> I basically agree
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ah months Eagle, friends reported good, but there are two issues now. First, that the network ring center towards Yang Yongxin, may be a bit superficial, should be able to May be a little deeper
Eagle 20:45:58
Yang Yongxin is not really the treatment of the addiction, but the pain produced by electric shocks to suppress the child's true thoughts, so children are forced to quit by Network Center script to show. so that parents see this show in a short time to the appearance, this appearance is mistaken for treatment.
Tori wine 20:46:35
2?
Eagle March 20 : 47:13
course, I just say my personal view, not to mention what the problem is it does not matter 20:47:20
Tori Tori wine wine 20:47:36
I think this is a question worth exploring
Eagle 20:47:43
on the game name the second is for justice and expose Yang Yongxin, these two problems are not contradictory
Tori wine 20 : 47:56
?
Eagle 20:47:59
on the contrary, complement each other, it is essential
on Eagle 20:48:19
ah, I just say something to see Eagle 20:49:44
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friends on how to see the problem?
Tori wine 20:51:02
I read a long article
your wine 20:51 Tori : 11
In fact, this time I wrote a long report
Tori wine 20:51:30
However, because of layout reasons, only a quarter of
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issues, including what you just said Eagle 20:51:54
everything on it is from an extreme understanding of the development to an extreme behavior. Now quit this addiction, the development of such extreme behavior, as well as parents are willing to support, are willing to give money to the center of the ring network to send his son, and even press play. This is because an extreme awareness of the parents at first. parents are scared, scared of the blind. like a while ago Some reports is that whenever someone of a mistake, if the people love the Internet, they immediately become a Mouwang addicts. and then some ring network of experts to the conclusion that evil game, the network of drugs. It is this idea, only for parents too panic, blindly manipulated by the network ring center. term of this demonization is reported that parents see the game become a scourge, look into electronic drugs, untouchable, not stained. soiled to death, we must at all costs eradication, or even the child's basic physical health and the cost of power, to specific standards governing a company do not have the so-called positive reports on the Yang Yongxin, there's a lot of content for Yang Yongxin in their self-righteous talk about things, but in reality is a shocking, shocking. such programs as the second girl, the first junior high school after school go to Internet cafes played a while, frankly speaking, this What's the big deal, people not any indulgence, not any addiction. If the parents can rational view of the network and the game, the normal boot, this is the piece a very normal thing. And the fact is that parents just get nervous and think that children stained the scourge of electronic drug-coated, parents of the child home is kicked directly. even with chains pincers, is sick.
parents as reported by the impact of this demonization, see things too extreme, the network game as a scourge. parents see their children playing a game, scared half to death, reflecting the extreme radical understanding of parents, children with more extreme way to push farther, a corner. On the contrary, as Game of the many advantages and charm of the place. and the child After the past. We are still demonizing the game, still use such an extreme attitude to regard the network game, and that there will be more Yang Yongxin, the problem is a vicious cycle. so to underlying causes. from the roots to prevent similar ring network agencies have extreme soil, they must re-scientific understanding of networks and game industry. to respect to understand, but not blindly suppress and vilify, not blindly to deepen understanding of this extreme. Therefore, rectification of names is crucial for the game important step.
Eagle 20:53:09
on Q rallied together this is our name did not start to revel in
Tori wine 20:54:06
I first ask you a few questions, Kazakhstan, if you do not mind, on Eagle 20:57:15
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Tori 20:57:45
you think now is not the addiction has become a social problem that needs attention, not to mention months because
Eagle 20:58:48 < br> Yes, it does require attention, and has attracted attention
Tori wine 20:59:55
then the network in the child's process of addiction, what kind of played a role?
Eagle 21:03:41
this month, is worth studying. in fact, and a pair of parents to educate their children than not, the network is like a spoiled child of elderly people, or understand the children, identify children for good friends. be very clear that this What kind of role. children need love and understanding, children can be in terms of addiction for some, the network serves as the only child of a real understanding of the child care role. It is a pity, because for those without Internet addiction family, this role primarily should be the parents to play.
Tori wine 21:05:29
I think, some parents are not do not care, do their teaching methods, or caring approach is problematic
Eagle 21:05:54
a month, this is indulgence.
Tori wine 21:06:33
family, school and society is a common cause of the problem because the wine
Tori 21: 06:58
explore this issue, but is far too broad
Eagle 21:07:06
while on the network, many children are recognized and understood, is the kind of care their children need. and these addiction to give parents the child's family is often the indulgence of their wine 21:07:15
Tori because every crime is likely to be caused by these reasons
Tori wine 21:08: 32
networks, in particular a good online game, more attractive to children, particularly those already existing problems of family education of children
Tori wine 21:09:30
innocent, I think the network itself , but when the family, school and community networks as additional reasons for the common cause of the problem
Tori wine 21:09:39
not have to reflect on our network?
Tori wine 21:10:02
Internet addiction is a result, the network also contributed to an important reason for this fruit wine 21:10:42
Tori So, I do not agree, the network of innocence, or that the network is only one tool .
Tori wine 21:11:45
as watching TV, like, some people will be addicted to, especially minors, should not look at some of the film, also an addiction. why we have a film classification
Tori 21:11:53
film itself guilty of wine do?
Tori wine 21:12:10
video entertainment tool that can bring us happiness
Tori wine 21:12:18
Then why classification?
Eagle 21:12:48
is this month, attracted to online games there, which contains two baking, one that attracted a from the sense of accomplishment, a sense of belonging, identity, these positive emotions.
Second, this attraction towards online games, our parents what kind of attitude should be? is exerting pressure against and exclusion, deepening family conflicts, gaining on the child addiction. or understanding and care, in the real education, the children of these sense of accomplishment, a sense of belonging, identity, and understanding, so that the child into a virtuous cycle, health, wine game
Tori 21: 13:03
drugs, you do not smoke it will not let you sin
Tori wine 21:14:14
poppy flowers still look good then, if you do not put it refined into opium, then it not a good appreciation of the flowers you people
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Tori wine so why ban it
Eagle 21:14:47
a month and can be a fundamental question the network is not a drug.
singing opera was madness, but we have claimed that people who sing the madness of the artist, no one said that singing is a drug. This is not fair, the child is vulnerable.
Tori wine 21: 15:40
I know that the network itself is innocent, it really is a tool
Eagle 21:15:52
on the world's first proposed the concept of Internet addiction, Ivan b Goldberg invention in the memories of their is really addictive, people in every cell of the body changes of material, but the network is not. the behavior of each person into the category of mental illness learn to discuss and attempt to explain the medical theories approach is absurd. If you extend the concept of l r addicted to every kind of human behavior, you will find people will be addicted to reading, running, addictive, with people will be addicted. > Tori wine 21:16:10
Yes, the first wine to mention
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Tori Internet addiction was not a significant social problem
months Eagle 21:16:29
Yes, this is the root of the problem, because the drug itself is guilty. The network, the network itself is innocent, it really is a tool.
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Tori 21:16:51
wine as opium, people may just start it as a food wine sauce
Tori 21:18:21
beginning I did not feel the guilt of the opium poppy.
Tori 21:18:26
wine month as the network
Eagle 21:18:51
In fact, the U.S. addiction problem, and still not a significant social problem. But the drug is indeed a significant social problem .
the role of drug use and chemical changes in the human body is an objective certainly is harmful.
the network will not produce any chemical change, does not interfere with the body's normal reaction. Ye Hao addiction did not become Ye Hao addiction is a matter of habit.
Tori wine 21:19:09
only later we found it a good suck, and then it did with the crime of wine 21:19:32
Tori the network is not a chemical change
Tori wine 21:19:37
physical changes but
Tori wine 21:19:52
several days and nights when a person can be in the the network
Tori wine 21:20:22
his body might not be able to withstand
Eagle 21:21:37
one month several days and nights in the network can be, this is a result of . and this result itself is due to many, the most important is family education, and parents caused by the improper understanding of the vicious circle.
Date :2009-8-17
Tori wine 21:21: 36
you can say because of school, family and society, of course, if everyone has enough self-control
Tori wine 21:22:01
all crime, including drug will not be 21:23:33
problem
Tori wine itself is a result of addiction, ah, but you also recognize the network is not one of the fruit because of it?
on Eagle 21:25:07
is, the question is how do you distinguish what the real reason things are in school, family and society. what do not.
on Eagle 21:25:14
me give an example
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The main reason, or because in fact very difficult to distinguish between times, of course, the best approach is to solve the primary and secondary Eagle 21:28:20
by
months ago, there was a news: a child in cafe tired, across the street to buy to buy instant noodles, the result is a car when crossing the road're dead.
this matter you say who is to blame?
in the car? in attracting children to buy the instant noodles? children in Internet cafes? responsibility is mainly in the driver. the news, but it became a death due to excessive network coverage, this is not the kind of it? this understanding is not correct.
on Eagle 21:29:02
in the car? in attracting children to buy the instant noodles? in the cafe? responsibility is mainly in the driver. the news, but it became a death due to excessive network coverage, this is not the kind of misleading? This understanding is incorrect.
Eagle 21:29:21
month when only a typo
Tori wine 21:29:30
I do not think the problem you cite the cases on the network
Eagle 21:29:40
Yes
Tori wine 21:29:58
But if the child is dead in Internet cafes, play the game in sudden death,
Tori wine 21 : 30:04
reason who do you think?
Eagle 21:30:13
months but now a lot of people put that instance, say that addiction is a problem, this is not the addiction exaggerate it?
Tori wine 21:30:29
you might say, blame his poor health, may blame his own heart
Tori wine 21:30:44
since the same time, the same game, why so many people die
Tori wine
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to his death, not of months eagle 21:30:49
I would not say
Tori wine 21:30:48
?
Tori deep wine 21:31:12
examples so you can not explain what
Eagle 21 months : 31:29
depends on several aspects of this reason, I will analyze the reasons for
Tori wine 21:31:39
Tori indeed many wine 21:31:58 < br> If you have to establish priorities, and I think that family, school and society is the main reason
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Tori wine because I interviewed cases, does the child's addiction and the family and school are closely related to wine 21:33:03
Tori is probably the way that parent education on one thing
Eagle 21:34:10
1, bar owners, if possible to his responsibility? he is in the admission of minors? Is this game too long to persuade the children called him home?
2, children of parents, whether the obligation to make to the guardianship?
Tori wine 21:34: 26
Yes ah, because indeed many wine 21:34:33
Tori everyone agree with this point
Tori wine 21:34:38
including network ring center of the parents
Tori wine 21:34:46
have to admit I have a big problem on Eagle 21:35:36
a simple principle, you'll be playing the game online to the exhausted? I will? Who would not, but why do some children coming out, we should focus on the differences to find a cause.
Eagle 21:36:21
months Yes, main cause of the problem of parents, and kids really do not shock, it is not fair on Eagle 21:36:31
Yes, the main cause of the problem of parents, the child was indeed a shock, this is not fair
Tori wine 21:36:35
I did not say I agree with the shock
Eagle 21:36:56
ah month, of course, we will not agree, all Tori will not agree with the
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Yes ah
wine wine 21:37:19
Tori was really exhausted at the cafe, I think is not the case
Tori wine 21:37:31
your assumption is that all people have enough self-control
Tori wine 21:37:36
all people are rational people
Tori wine 21:38:04
be wine is not the case
Tori 21:39:02
I am against electric shock, but also against corporal punishment, the same I think, have to limit online game
Tori wine 21:39:11
Tori wine must be hierarchical classification to fatigue
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Eagle 21:39:31
a month, this Society is always someone to commit a crime, someone to rob the bank because the banking problem? how we should treat these people may not be rational? It needs a method of education. rather than to deny the objective of such a thing network , to order a few irrational people, and hurt the most rational person.
Tori wine 21:39:43
rectification of names for the game so we do not, no one thought that the game is inherently sinful
Tori wine 21:40:06
so the door must be fitted in a bank security ah
Tori wine must be put behind bars 21:40:19
ah ah months Eagle 21:41:53
, in terms of rectification of names is relatively slander, but now some people in society think that the game really evil. Professor Tao as compared to drug ecstasy online games, online games, said the consumer is not the right player. This way of analogy, is guilty of a game On reflection. And the crime has been exaggerated a lot.
Tori wine 21:42:04
not eat things no one to slander the game
Tori wine 21:42:50
Even in the 43:30
ah, I hope that those who slander the game less and less, parents treat children games and Internet access problems can be more rational, only rational parents, the child can be rational.
Tori 21:43:30
wine such as pottery and the like, said online gaming is not good wine 21:43:41
Tori you are not a lot to criticize, to harass you
Tori wine 21:43 : 56
is also not rational, not irrational, as some parents, like wine 21:44:40
Tori and I think the parents are not rational, he was just lip service, he did not to the online game business to the door to march, to interfere with their work
Tori wine 21:44:59
you people see the message on the network
Tori wine 21:45:31 < br> simply do not like the future of the mainstream of society and the elite style
Tori wine 21:45:58
I do not agree with your point of view, but I defend to the death your right to say 21
Tori wine : 46:20
Tori was a gentleman and not wine 21:46:46
abuse, harassment
Eagle 21:47:08
month is this is a problem, WOW players are 500 million people in groups, any one of our area from out of 500 million people, there will be no rational person there. faced with a public insult, curse this back to the inevitable. But I think for a well-known professor , it should also have the responsibility to play a leading reason about the player is a group, not exactly the same. But Professor Tao is individual, personal control their own behavior, the groups should be more than 500 million people is much easier. I hope our allow the 500 million gamers have irrational
Tori wine 21:48:02
why not allow individual professors, some parents do
Tori irrational wine 21:48:17
Moreover, the two are not the same irrational
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wine, such as pottery Tori is Tori in public criticism
even a wine 21:48:33
Tori wine critics wrong
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of you take a look at several people in the online message
Tori 21:48:56
wine is simply abuse
Tori 21:49:18
pottery wine can be attacked, then, can be wrong
Tori wine 21:49:25
but definitely not abusive
Eagle 21:49:42 monthly < br> ah, but we see the representation of the professor, representative of the players, not without reason. and most representative of the Chinese quit the first person to addiction, but the first is not rational, it should not happen.
Tori wine 21:49:56
statistics you look at his message
Tori wine 21:50:07
how many people are criticizing
21:50 on Hawk: 09
same time, I just said
Tori wine 21:50:13
fish as yesterday, as
Tori wine 21:50:31
feel that others misunderstand the game, misunderstanding Tori
of your wine can criticize
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Eagle 21:50:55
can not find on, wait
Tori wine 21:50:54 < br> What kind of truth.
month
Eagle 21:51:42
Oh did not say I'm on the new Eagle 21:51:47
talk about
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for Professor Tao's remarks, I want to stress that
Tori 21:52:23
pottery wine is absolutely the case, and even that you see a mistake
Tori wine 21:52 : 44
but if you want to become the future backbone of democracy in Chinese society on Eagle 21:52:49
I personally Professor Tao's way of quality education quit addiction very much support, but he now says the drug game, the player is a drug addict. How can rely on education to quit drug addiction it? his > The reason why some children to blindly pursue the game a sense of achievement, sense of belonging, identity, because they are difficult to obtain in real life, this sense of accomplishment, sense of belonging and identity. and now some experts and network with mental ring , drug addicts and other hats to hurt the child, to discriminate against children. so that they face in real life do not agree more, this will only push more children and greater, a vicious cycle.
Tori wine 21:52 : 55
must first learn to respect your opponents
Tori wine 21:54:27
me cite an example, 10 days ago now, we and colleagues discuss the manuscript, he is the World of Warcraft players
Tori wine 21:54:42
a problem of addiction that we do, to think that we misunderstood the game
Tori wine 21:55:00
we do not voice our opinion
Tori wine 21:55:09
he felt anxious
Tori wine 21:55:30
I asked him, the network has become an addiction is not required to attach importance to social issues the
Tori said wine is
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Eagle 21:55:55
a month, standing objective point of view, and friends you think: 500 million people left out of all reason, all to respect the opponent, : 56:58
pottery can be irrational, not to abuse
Tori wine 21:57:06
slander if you think he is a wine 21:57:11
can
Tori to prosecute
Eagle 21:57:17
500 million people on the unification, unified rationality is unrealistic. but to a famous professor at the CCTV so influential media above, in front of national audience , reason about, is a natural ....
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